pizducha94 Posted May 23, 2014 Share Posted May 23, 2014 Hello everybody, I've noticed same bug on our server too. Guests with 2.55 version has that crash after few seconds being in game. The silent_crash.log shows same message. I'm really interested in solving this problem because as I noticed some time ago, we still have got quite lot guest comming with 2.55 version. Here are some my discoveries about that problem: Our server is running silent 0.8.1, OS - liux. After some experiments I found that this bug has nothing to do with server configuration. Also I noticed that this happens after downloading server pk3 files or silent-0.8.1.pk3. I found that using snd_restart command prevents the clients game before this crash. Also if I put server files (only mod pk3) to mod directory manually (before connecting the server and without restarting game) the crash doesn't happen. Could be a cause in some client's cvar? Thanks in advance for your reply, .Be|P!Zducha*94 PS: Is it ok to post it in so old thread or shall i open another one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management gaoesa Posted May 23, 2014 Management Share Posted May 23, 2014 I think these are unrelated so I split the topic. I assume there is no crash info based on the previous report. Do you have a lot of custom sounds and maps on your server. There are some limitations that are more severe for 2.55 clients than 2.60 clients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizducha94 Posted May 23, 2014 Author Share Posted May 23, 2014 Thank you. No, there is no information about crash. Nothing in etconsole.log even nothing in silent_crash.log. I've done all those experiments, I spoke about, on my home server (just basic install => no custom sounds no maps). I've just installed silent on my home server and set the dl link to FDL we're using for our public server. Than I connected my HS and boom. That was also why I started thinking that there could be some problem in our FDL. But I've changed my mind. There cannot be anything wrong, it's just space for files with fast link, isn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management gaoesa Posted May 23, 2014 Management Share Posted May 23, 2014 Have you tested with your home server setup that possible AV programs don't cause issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizducha94 Posted May 23, 2014 Author Share Posted May 23, 2014 AV = Antivirus? If yes, I've never wondered it could affect my home server furthermore how it could cause my clients game crash? Also I was doing some more experiments and I have to edit my previous claim, snd_restart cmd doesn't help anymore. It's weird because when I was checking this crash first time it helped before reconnecting to prevent this crash. Just one more thing, is it possible that this could be connected with OpenGL? I see defaul.cfg (in mapconfigs dir) forces r_softwareGL to 0. Don't know how this cvar works (I haven't seen this in original cvar list). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management gaoesa Posted May 23, 2014 Management Share Posted May 23, 2014 It could cerainly be related to the OpenGL. Yes, I meant AntiVirus. Also, I meant if it would affect the client but I didn't want to suggest you disabling it before connecting to an unknown server. However, if the 2.60 works fine in the same computer, it doesn't seem very likely that drivers would be the cause for you. The r_softwareGL 0 just ensures that you can't emulate OpenGL but you must have a GPU capable for it and the drivers. However, very often in Windows, I assume Windows because of the 2.55 version you are using, low level failures such as drivers and hardware generate BSOD and not such a clean exit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizducha94 Posted May 24, 2014 Author Share Posted May 24, 2014 Well, this OpenGL isn't the cause of this crash. I've tried to force r_softwaregl to 1 and experimented with others and nothing has changed. I really have no idea what could cause this problem. After I found that crash, I tried connect some other servers with similar settings silent-0.8.1 etc... and I haven't got any crash there. I don't say it would be 100% server side problem but it's connected with our server somehow. Also one more information which makes this really strange. Once before there were a disc crash and then we reinstalled the server. Before we reinstalled the server there hadn't been any problem. I'd tested it several times before. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management gaoesa Posted May 24, 2014 Management Share Posted May 24, 2014 If you make a default install on your server, without even any custom maps, does it work then? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dragonji Posted May 24, 2014 Share Posted May 24, 2014 What is your server binary? Do you have any of these: pak1.pk3, pak2.pk3 or mp_bin.pk3 inside your etmain folder of your ET server installation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizducha94 Posted May 24, 2014 Author Share Posted May 24, 2014 If you make a default install on your server, without even any custom maps, does it work then? Hmm, I could try this but I need to wait until nobody is on the server and it may take some time. What is your server binary? Do you have any of these: pak1.pk3, pak2.pk3 or mp_bin.pk3 inside your etmain folder of your ET server installation? No, I've removed all of those because clients with 2.55 wouldn't be able to connect. And this crash happens after a few seconds of being in game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management gaoesa Posted May 25, 2014 Management Share Posted May 25, 2014 Just to make it clear on this case. The reason why the silent_crash.txt file is empty is because the mod file has been wiped out already. The exception handler is in that binary. I.e. the execution was not in silent mod binary when it happened. Based on the original thread this was posted, the game does not go all the way to the desktop, which indicates the engine encounters an issue it can't resolve and it has to close the game. However, even still this could be happening because of programmatic errors, less likely though, because some of the ET default utility functions have their own ways to handle bad input data. Console logs should provide enough information to recognize such cases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizducha94 Posted June 3, 2014 Author Share Posted June 3, 2014 Hello I'm back, here is my console output if it help somehow: logfile opened on Tue Jun 03 10:56:10 2014 ]\dUnknown command "d"Requesting servers from the master...CL_ServersResponsePacket99 servers parsed (total 99)CL_ServersResponsePacket99 servers parsed (total 198)CL_ServersResponsePacket51 servers parsed (total 249)^3WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader levelshots/UJE_bathroom_panzer-> all warnings^3WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader levelshots/hk_supermario_sniperResolving etmaster.idsoftware.cometmaster.idsoftware.com resolved to 192.246.40.60:27951213.108.30.111:27961 resolved to 213.108.30.111:27961^5PunkBuster Client: Cdkey Registration Request sent to GuidAuth Master at 192.246.40.62:27960 (857152874)^5PunkBuster Client: Connected to Server 213.108.30.111:27961^5PunkBuster Client: Master Query Sent to (MASTER3.EVENBALANCE.COM) 50.23.100.138Current search path:h:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\caen_4.pk3 (115 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\caen2.67ed7473.pk3 (83 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\pak0.pk3 (3725 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55/silenth:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\mp_bin.pk3 (4 files) not on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\caen2.pk3 (85 files) not on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55/etmain handle 2: etconsole.log----------------------8024 files in pk3 filesNeed paks: silent/^7Pack^41of2^7-v2.pk3silent/^7Pack^12of2^7-v5.pk3silent/silent-0.8.1.pk3 Need paks: @silent/^7Pack^41of2^7-v2.pk3@silent/^7Pack^41of2^7-v2.pk3@silent/^7Pack^12of2^7-v5.pk3@silent/^7Pack^12of2^7-v5.pk3@silent/silent-0.8.1.pk3@silent/silent-0.8.1.pk3Need paks: @silent/^7Pack^41of2^7-v2.pk3@silent/^7Pack^41of2^7-v2.pk3@silent/^7Pack^12of2^7-v5.pk3@silent/^7Pack^12of2^7-v5.pk3@silent/silent-0.8.1.pk3@silent/silent-0.8.1.pk3execing profiles/pepin/etconfig.cfgClient download subsystem initialized^5PunkBuster Client: Not Connected to a ServerExiting pump loop: 1Current search path:h:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\silent\^7Pack^41of2^7-v2.pk3 (41 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\caen_4.pk3 (115 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\caen2.67ed7473.pk3 (83 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\pak0.pk3 (3725 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55/silenth:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\mp_bin.pk3 (4 files) not on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\caen2.pk3 (85 files) not on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55/etmain handle 1: sound/music/menu_server.wavhandle 2: etconsole.log----------------------12077 files in pk3 filesResolving etmaster.idsoftware.cometmaster.idsoftware.com resolved to 192.246.40.60:27951213.108.30.111:27961 resolved to 213.108.30.111:27961^5PunkBuster Client: Cdkey Registration Request sent to GuidAuth Master at 192.246.40.62:27960 (1690525165)^5PunkBuster Client: Connected to Server 213.108.30.111:27961Current search path:h:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\silent\^7Pack^41of2^7-v2.pk3 (41 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\caen_4.pk3 (115 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\caen2.67ed7473.pk3 (83 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\pak0.pk3 (3725 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55/silenth:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\mp_bin.pk3 (4 files) not on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\caen2.pk3 (85 files) not on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55/etmain handle 2: etconsole.log----------------------16130 files in pk3 filesNeed paks: silent/^7Pack^12of2^7-v5.pk3silent/silent-0.8.1.pk3 Need paks: @silent/^7Pack^12of2^7-v5.pk3@silent/^7Pack^12of2^7-v5.pk3@silent/silent-0.8.1.pk3@silent/silent-0.8.1.pk3Need paks: @silent/^7Pack^12of2^7-v5.pk3@silent/^7Pack^12of2^7-v5.pk3@silent/silent-0.8.1.pk3@silent/silent-0.8.1.pk3^5PunkBuster Client: Not Connected to a ServerExiting pump loop: 1Current search path:h:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\silent\^7Pack^41of2^7-v2.pk3 (41 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\silent\^7Pack^12of2^7-v5.pk3 (14 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\caen_4.pk3 (115 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\caen2.67ed7473.pk3 (83 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\pak0.pk3 (3725 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55/silenth:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\mp_bin.pk3 (4 files) not on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\caen2.pk3 (85 files) not on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55/etmain handle 1: sound/music/menu_server.wavhandle 2: etconsole.log----------------------20197 files in pk3 filesResolving etmaster.idsoftware.cometmaster.idsoftware.com resolved to 192.246.40.60:27951213.108.30.111:27961 resolved to 213.108.30.111:27961^5PunkBuster Client: Cdkey Registration Request sent to GuidAuth Master at 192.246.40.62:27960 (507006381)^5PunkBuster Client: Connected to Server 213.108.30.111:27961Current search path:h:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\silent\^7Pack^41of2^7-v2.pk3 (41 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\silent\^7Pack^12of2^7-v5.pk3 (14 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\caen_4.pk3 (115 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\caen2.67ed7473.pk3 (83 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\pak0.pk3 (3725 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55/silenth:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\mp_bin.pk3 (4 files) not on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\caen2.pk3 (85 files) not on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55/etmain handle 2: etconsole.log----------------------24264 files in pk3 filesNeed paks: silent/silent-0.8.1.pk3 Need paks: @silent/silent-0.8.1.pk3@silent/silent-0.8.1.pk3Need paks: @silent/silent-0.8.1.pk3@silent/silent-0.8.1.pk3Exiting pump loop: 1Current search path:h:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\silent\^7Pack^41of2^7-v2.pk3 (41 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\silent\^7Pack^12of2^7-v5.pk3 (14 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\silent\silent-0.8.1.pk3 (528 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\caen_4.pk3 (115 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\caen2.67ed7473.pk3 (83 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\pak0.pk3 (3725 files) on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55/silenth:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\mp_bin.pk3 (4 files) not on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\caen2.pk3 (85 files) not on the pure listh:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55/etmain handle 2: etconsole.log----------------------28859 files in pk3 filesResolving etmaster.idsoftware.cometmaster.idsoftware.com resolved to 192.246.40.60:27951^1ERROR: ui/main.menu, line 146: unknown menu item keyword windowtitle-> all errors^1ERROR: ui/silEnT_minimizer.menu, line 31: unknown menu item keyword MINIMIZER213.108.30.111:27961 resolved to 213.108.30.111:27961^5PunkBuster Client: Cdkey Registration Request sent to GuidAuth Master at 192.246.40.62:27960 (1396840410)RE_Shutdown( 0 )Hunk_Clear: reset the hunk ok----- R_Init ----- GL_VENDOR: NVIDIA CorporationGL_RENDERER: GeForce GT 630/PCIe/SSE2GL_VERSION: 4.4.0GL_EXTENSIONS: GL_AMD_multi_draw_indirect GL_ARB_arrays_of_arrays GL_ARB_base_instance GL_ARB_blend_func_extended GL_ARB_buffer_storage -> other GL_ stuffsGL_MAX_ACTIVE_TEXTURES_ARB: 4 PIXELFORMAT: color(32-bits) Z(24-bit) stencil(0-bits)MODE: 4, 800 x 600 fullscreen hz:75GAMMA: hardware w/ 0 overbright bitsCPU: AMD w/ 3DNow!rendering primitives: single glDrawElementstexturemode: GL_LINEAR_MIPMAP_LINEARpicmip: 0texture bits: 0multitexture: enabledcompiled vertex arrays: enabledtexenv add: enabledcompressed textures: disabledNV distance fog: disabledInitializing Shaders----- finished R_Init -----^3WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader ui/assets/logo_etproLOADING... collision mapLOADING... soundsvoice chat memory size = 0 .........................Initializing Sound Scripts...loading 'sound/scripts/vo_allies.sounds'...loading 'sound/scripts/vo_axis.sounds'...loading 'sound/scripts/caen2.sounds'done.LOADING... graphicsLOADING... maps/caen2.bsp^3WARNING: Couldn't find image for shader textures/warehouse/zig_sigstitched 0 LoD cracks...loaded 12591 faces, 122 meshes, 251 trisurfs, 0 flares 0 foliageLOADING... entitiesLOADING... game mediaLOADING... - texturesLOADING... - modelsLOADING... - weaponsLOADING... - itemsLOADING... - inline modelsLOADING... - server modelsLOADING... - particlesLOADING... - classesLOADING... - game media doneLOADING... flamechunksLOADING... clients^dLoadLocations: ^3Warning: ^9No location data found for map ^2caen2^9.profiles/pepin/-hud.dat^2No HUD specified, default HUD loadedCL_InitCGame: 7.74 secondsCom_TouchMemory: 1 msecserver forcing cvar snaps to 20server forcing cvar r_ambientScale to 0.5server forcing cvar r_colorMipLevels to 0server forcing cvar r_lightmap to 0server forcing cvar cl_freelook to 1server forcing cvar cl_pitchspeed to 0server forcing cvar cl_timenudge to 0server forcing cvar r_zfar to 0server forcing cvar r_softwareGL to 0^9banner: ^7^7PROBLEMS CONNECTING AFTER DOWNLOAD? RESTART ^1W:ET ^7AND RECONNECT!^3server: loaded stored XP from 5 days ago^1GUEST ^7pepin ^7connectedFlint^7 disconnectedpepin^7 entered the gamepepin^7 has joined the Allied team^7!Allied Command Post constructed. Charge speed increased!The Command Post was constructed by Sean^7.^7Richard ^7drew ^1FIRST BLOOD ^7from RazorRazor^7 was killed by Richard^7's StenPlanted at the Gate.Current search path:h:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\silent\^7Pack^41of2^7-v2.pk3 (41 files)h:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\silent\^7Pack^12of2^7-v5.pk3 (14 files)h:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\silent\silent-0.8.1.pk3 (528 files)h:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55/silenth:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\pak0.pk3 (3725 files)h:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\mp_bin.pk3 (4 files)h:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\caen_4.pk3 (115 files)h:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\caen2.pk3 (85 files)h:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55\etmain\caen2.67ed7473.pk3 (83 files)h:\Hry\Wolfenstein - Enemy Territory - 2.55/etmain handle 2: etconsole.log----------------------33454 files in pk3 files********************ERROR: -8<------- Crash Information ------->8- ********************RE_Shutdown( 0 )Hunk_Clear: reset the hunk ok----- R_Init ----- GL_VENDOR: NVIDIA CorporationGL_RENDERER: GeForce GT 630/PCIe/SSE2GL_VERSION: 4.4.0GL_EXTENSIONS: GL_AMD_multi_draw_indirect GL_ARB_arrays_of_arrays GL_ARB_base_instance GL_ARB_blend_func_extended GL_ARB_buffer_storage GL_ARB_clear_buffer_object GL_ARB_clear_texture GL_ARB_color_buffer_float GL_ARB_compatibility GL_ARB_compressed_texture_pixel_storage GL_ARB_conservative_depth GL_ARB_compute_shader GL_ARB_compute_variable_group_size GL_ARB_copy_buffer GL_ARB_copy_image GL_ARB_debug_output GL_ARB_depth_buffer_float GL_ARB_depth_clamp GL_ARB_depth_texture GL_ARB_draw_buffers GL_ARB_draw_buffers_blend GL_ARB_draw_indirect GL_ARB_draw_elements_base_vertex GL_ARB_draw_instanced GL_ARB_enhanced_layouts GL_ARB_ES2_compatibility GL_ARB_ES3_compatibility GL_ARB_explicit_attrib_location GL_ARB_explicit_uniform_location GL_ARB_fragment_coord_conventions GL_ARB_fragment_layer_viewport GL_ARB_fragment_program GL_ARB_fragment_program_shadow GL_ARB_fragment_shader GL_ARB_framebuffer_no_attachments GL_ARB_framebuffer_object GL_ARB_framebuffer_sRGB GL_ARB_geometry_shader4 GL_ARB_get_program_binary GL_ARB_gpu_shader5 GL_ARB_gpu_shader_fp64 GL_ARB_half_float_pixel GL_ARB_half_float_vertex GL_ARB_imaging GL_ARB_indirect_parameters GL_ARB_instanced_arrays GL_ARB_internalformat_query GL_ARB_internalformat_query2 GL_ARB_invalidate_subdata GL_ARB_map_buffer_alignment GL_ARB_map_buffer_range GL_ARB_multi_bind GL_ARB_multi_draw_indirect GL_ARB_multisample GL_ARB_multitexture GL_ARB_occlusion_query GL_ARB_occlusion_query2 GL_ARB_pixel_buffer_object GL_ARB_point_parameters GL_ARB_point_sprite GL_ARB_program_interface_query GL_ARB_provoking_vertex GL_ARB_robust_buffer_access_behavior GL_ARB_robustness GL_ARB_sample_shading GL_ARB_sampler_objects GL_ARB_seamless_cube_map GL_ARB_separate_shader_objects GL_ARB_shader_atomic_counters GL_ARB_shader_bit_encoding GL_ARB_shad-> here game completely crashs PS: I've removed some too long parts with ui/ errors etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizducha94 Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 One more thing. I've tried some things before my 2.55 crashes and I've found out strange thing. After downloading server packs and after entering the world, I typed cvar_restart to my console. Then my WolfET again crashed after a few seconds but the crash window wasn't empty. There were notification about missing packs. Exactly, there were information, that the pack I removed before I launched the game, is missing even though I downloaded this pack during the ingame DL. So this made me thinking. Is it possible that game doesn't load pack or doesn't load it properly although they're download from server? Could this be the case of this crash? How could I fix that from server side? The fact that if I restart game and connect the server again then this crash doesn't occur supports this my speculation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management gaoesa Posted June 8, 2014 Management Share Posted June 8, 2014 It sounds like the issue is in 2.55 client. I doubt there are things that can be done to prevent it. Luckily, it happens only when players download the packs so on subsequent times, they don't have problems. One thing you can do is to instruct players to update their clients. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pizducha94 Posted June 9, 2014 Author Share Posted June 9, 2014 So there isn't any command to restart game which could be sent to client's console using Lua, is it right? I just know that vid_restart and snd_restart don't help in this case. Anyway, I appreciate your help, thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Management gaoesa Posted June 9, 2014 Management Share Posted June 9, 2014 There is no method for executing commands in the client. Only option for such a thing would be a custom menu, but that would not get executed unless the user opens the menu and clicks some button. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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