Thanks for responding. its most likely because you've copied the old database over as well, No i did not. You ment i should delete the userdb.db, and than the server makes a new one automaticly? Without crashing the server? If you have your paths set correctly it will be using the server.cfg from with in your silent directory and not your etmain. I have not done this, i also cannot see it, its made by game server provider Fragwise. you should also when its working change the name of your silent.cfg file to something else to make it harder for other people to make changes if they ever get in. Yes, in my old server i have doen that to, many gameproviders think its not needed are you using a windows or linux based server ? I have no idea, can i see that somewhere? I do not know what Fragwise is using. I posted here because if i make a trouble ticket it takes 2 to 3 days before they respond on it. So i try to fix it my self, with help from here. That helped me years ago also better than the slow help of game providers. Maybe they should hire someone from here, to respond and fix trouble tickets What i found strange that the server did not load the silent.cfg, i personalized, but a clean version of it. But now it runs the personalized, since i ad: exec silent.cf in server.cfg. Tosa